DISQUS

Political Wire: Quitters Rarely Win -- Taegan Goddard's Political Wire

  • Roehl · 4 months ago
    We don't like quitters running the White House. We may prefer to try and kick them out ourselves, but we'd rather not vote them into office in the first place if they've shown a propensity for checking out early.

    Sarah Palin: neither a leader nor a politician, but a personality.
  • gypc_dave · 4 months ago
    And a disordered personality, at that.
  • north2008 · 4 months ago
    I like that; in the same way that Limbaugh is a personality, and Joseph Jackson.
  • DrTrocar · 4 months ago
    " Sarah Palin: neither a leader nor a politician, but a personality." How true, and well stated, Roehl. I love it!
  • ExistentialKid · 4 months ago
    And super-hard to believe we've (well, most of us outside AK) not even "known" her for ONE FULL YEAR yet...
  • bpai99 · 4 months ago
    I wonder what John McCain thinks of this - does he finally realize how much he put the country at risk by making this woman his VP candidate?
  • E_in_Houston_TX · 4 months ago
    Correction. McCain doesn't like do overs. He said so himself. He said he makes a decision, no matter how dumb, stupid or bone-headed, and doesn't look back. All I can say is whew! That was close.
    Can you imagine MCcain/Palin in the Whitehouse, having to deal with the Iran election crisis?
  • laughingdog · 4 months ago
    Actually...I'd really, really rather not -- if I want nightmares, I'll stick to horror movies...
  • Laguna_b · 4 months ago
    He knew it would only be over his dead body.....at that point...he is no longer at risk...."see ya guys, she's YOUR problem now"
  • north2008 · 4 months ago
    I do wish Sarah had given it a try to fall back in love with Alaska.
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    And she just took a dump on the media and washington insiders on bookface(as i like to call it)
  • Tamburello1994 · 4 months ago
    Palin can't finish anything - not college, not political office, not bashing the media. That gives me hope if she starts anything else!
  • gypc_dave · 4 months ago
    Don't be too hasty - George W. Bush couldn't finish his "war on terror," or the occupation of Iraq, or the capture of Osama bin Laden, or ... well, most anything except his tax cuts. Things started by politicians unable to complete them tend to become problems left to the capable folks elected to follow them.
  • north2008 · 4 months ago
    Hey Dave, Meffy, Chredon, Nevada, et al;

    I've just figured it out! 3 and all the Palindrones have written a new secret history of America. That's why when everyone points out the flaws 3 keeps telling us to "bone up" on our history. We need Tom Hanks to get on the case here. There's obviously a code at work.
  • shawsr · 4 months ago
    Somehow you get the sense that this lady believes that even though she quit her first term as governor of Alaska, nevertheless, she did something noble. Remember the sitcom, "Green Acres"? Remember how out of place Oliver Wendell Douglas felt among the locals of Hooterville? When I think of Sarah Palin running for President,I feel like Oliver Wendell Douglas watching "Eb" run for President.
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    Just goes to show what if she is president and were invaded will she throw up a white flag?
  • MaicoMark · 4 months ago
    You betcha! [wink]
  • zappa24 · 4 months ago
    Or like Frasier Crane watching Woody Boyd run for city council and realizing that Woody might possibly run for President someday and somehow win. In a way, Sarah is Woody without any of his good traits.
  • lessguv · 4 months ago
    "Dole no longer had the Senate job he had loved." Dole did do ads for Viagra though.
  • Patrick12 · 4 months ago
    Pfizer knew the pill was a winner when Elizabeth Dole kept waking up with pen marks on her back.
  • kortjackson · 4 months ago
    Hey, at least they're still practicing proper family values! Sadly, Republicans no longer have that particular thing they love thanks to Ensign and Sanford!

    Great comment, Patrick12.
  • Patrick12 · 4 months ago
    Great comeback you get the golden rebound award for the family values reference.
  • gypc_dave · 4 months ago
    Funniest comment of the day, Pat!
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    HAH!!!!! That was really, *REALLY* funny!
  • colby · 4 months ago
    The "more time to spend in Iowa and New Hampshire" idea seems to be pretty smart thinking for 30 years ago. Then, we had Nixon, Carter and Reagan, all three of whom ran and won without holding a government job at the time.

    But of those three, only Carter's retirement was really "Strategic"; Nixon and Reagan let their previous jobs come to a sort of natural end (2 complete terms), and even Carter DID complete his term. Even still, Carter came along in the wake of Watergate, and it's very difficult to draw viable conclusions from that era.

    All Presidents are unique political actors, they don't get to the job in the same way. But even among that group, Nixon, Carter, and Reagan were very unique- so applying their strategy to anyone else is a very risky proposition.
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    Reagan served two full terms as governor of California
    Carter served two full terms in the Georgia Senate and governor for one full term (term limited)
    Nixon: Congressman, senator, Vice President for a total of 14 years.
    Palin: Governor of Alaska for half a term.

    No comparison.
  • Patrick12 · 4 months ago
    Do you think this will shoot down their arguement that Obama does not have enough experience to be elected president?..... ;-)
  • Laguna_b · 4 months ago
    Would have been funny in 2012 for Obama to use a slogan "stick with experience - and someone who doesn't quit when it gets tough"
  • colby · 4 months ago
    I didn't know the GA Governorship was term-limited back then. That kinda makes my point even more apt- Nixon, Carter, and Reagan all finished their previous jobs at natural- or legally-implemented- times. None of them even declined to run for re-election, much less left their jobs.

    That said, I'm not sure this really IS about running for Prez.
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    Tae:

    Who is this guy? (Great stream of Palin threads, btw. Keep 'em comin'. Now Palin will be able to benefit from the attention.)

    A weak correlation stretched to causation, though. People leave positions all the time. Washington quit and retired. Lincoln quit his only Federal office. Theodore Roosevelt quit his Federal job to fight in a war he started. Eisenhower had retired, etc.

    Look at the losers who didn't quit to give themselves time to prepare. Most of them. Had Kerry quit he'd never have voted against something before he voted for it. He'd be President right now.

    Virtually every pundit advised her to give up her Alaska job. She timed it so her successor could get a leg up for 2010.

    Races for President take more than a year or two to put together.

    (BTW x2 Tae, Todd twittered me that your in the next cabinet as Internet Czar.)

    Your pal,
    36763
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    "Keep 'em comin'. Now Palin will be able to benefit from the attention"

    Uh, no. Precisely the opposite. The fact that you don't get it makes it doubly amusing.
  • politicsjunkie · 4 months ago
    Really! Positive or negative attention being seen as success is the hallmark of young children with emotional problems.
  • nurgles_herald · 4 months ago
    You forget that Sarah Palin has a magical aura of intense Christendom that REDEEMS the souls of any ARTICLES that could be construed AS being NEGATIVE so that she can fulfill her destiny as JESUS in this LIFETIME.

    CAPITALIZING random buzz WORDS is TOTALLY awesome. OR so I HAVE heard.
  • gypc_dave · 4 months ago
    Especially if you don't know enough HTML to italicize, bold, or underline.
  • Meffy · 4 months ago
    Palin and 3 must think they're Chip Diller from Animal House.

    *WHACK* "Thank-you-sir-may-I-have-another?"

    Which would give them an imaginary Bacon number of the square root of negative one. (My Bacon number is three, via Jay Silverheels and Duane Gray.)
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    I'm glad to provide the service. It's all about helping my fellow man.
  • politicsjunkie · 4 months ago
    That is one of your more desperate, disingenuous, and delusional posts to date.
    What pundits argued she should quit mid first term?
    Are those presidential anecdotes really the official talking points for the Palindrones now?
    For one, Eisenhower retired from the army after the end of World War II not in the middle of it. He also gave a brilliant farewell speech on the dangers of the military industrial complex, not a rambling, disjointed, self congratulatory, whiny mess that could at best be called an explanation and not a speech.
    I am of the opinion that this is the end of her viability as a political candidate even if she is foolish enough to try a presidential run, this ruined any chances she may have had. She may try but her candidacy will end during the primaries, mark my words.
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    Yes, comparing Sarah Palin's two-and-a-half years as governor of Alaska to the pre-presidential achievements of Washington, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower is bizarre.
  • Laguna_b · 4 months ago
    I think that speaks to the level of dellusion......
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    ... and I must say that those great Americans were NOT quitters.
  • Adlib · 4 months ago
    No kidding. She'd no doubt *quit* mid-primary season in some pique of hurt feelings over some comment from the "liberal" MSM.

    Peace
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    I marked you words. Now what do I win?
  • laughingdog · 4 months ago
    Don't worry, 36. We've been marking yours..you know..the ones about the left "being terrified of Palin" and how "if Palin runs in 2012, Obama doesn't stand a chance", etc. How does that crow taste? Better than the rue, I bet.
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    What did she lose? You radical lefties made her a superstar.
  • NewCitizen · 4 months ago
    I see, so by having her oh-so-many flaws as a candidate pointed out in the open light for all to see...that is somehow helping her? Or, sorry, making her a "superstar"??

    Seriously man, you're as crazy as Caribou Barbie is.
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    That's right, everybody who opposes Sarah Palin is a radical lefty. That is so delusional.

    The fact is, independents such as myself have been so turned off by her that we have not only eschewed the GOP for being responsible for elevating this idiot to national prominence, we'll probably keep voting Democrat for as long as there's the slightest chance she'll play a role in any future administration.
  • laughingdog · 4 months ago
    Actually, I think it was Mccain that first put her on the national stage -- the left had nothing to do with it. Then she made herself tabloid fodder with her thin-skinned, histrionic antics (in a train-wreck manner reminiscent of Spears or Lohan). Honestly, I think she made herself a 'superstar' with very little help from the left at all.

    Oh, and for the record, I generally register as an Independent.
  • politicsjunkie · 4 months ago
    Oh nothing just Sarah Palin loses so we all win in the final outcome.
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    "Virtually every pundit advised her to give up her Alaska job"

    In the middle of the term? No, I'm sorry, there, 36-hike, that's just flat-out false and you know it. NOBODY advised her to quit in the middle of her term, and only SOME people suggested that she should not to seek reelection -- most of whom (e.g. Andrew Sullivan) you wouldn't have trusted if they'd told you water was wet.
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    ...and before you reply, make sure that whatever that reply is, it contains an irrefutable link to a single, solitary pundit who said she should quit her job in the middle of her term. 'Cause if you can't, you're done.
  • Carl_Brutanananadilewski · 4 months ago
    The Alaskan state government is only in session for a 100 days out of the year and even though governing is a year round job for a Governor the last four Presidents were capable of chewing gum and walking at the same time. Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, and Obama all ran for President while holding other political offices (Vice-President, Governor of AK, Governor of TX, Senator of IL) and were able to do both so why can't Palin? It's not like a candidate has to make every single decision unless they are micromanaging every aspect of it, which, if that is what is going on, is a sure sign Palin isn't ready for the White House because if she can't delegate now how will she ever delegate once her workload increases a hundredfold? And if she hates the scrutiny her and her family gets now how would she ever handle living her entire life in a fish bowl surrounded by cameras recording all her and her family's actions and words? Resigning during her VP run made sense but she didn't do it when it made sense but now it makes zero sense and the reasons she gave made even less sense. Do you really think Palin can influence Alaskan politics more as a private citizen than as Governor? That's absurd as the Governor she can hire and fire a vast array of people and influence the legislative agenda while as a private citizen all she can do is give speeches and fundraise and she could've done those things while remaining Governor unless she can't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. Not to mention, once she is no longer Governor, the people who have been kowtowing to her will suddenly stop because they will no longer be afraid of her firing them.
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    It is actually a fact that there is not much else for her to do in Alaska. The fact of the matter is that Alaska is one of the only states where frivolous complaints become full blown legal battles costing the office holder a lot of money. Her family, until the book deal but before the crash, had a net worth of $1,200,000. Her legal bills though reasonable by attorney standards amounted to a personal Liability of $600,000 with no end in sight.

    If she wanted to be a career Governor, then you are right. She should have stayed. If she wanted to move onto better things, the sooner the better.

    IMO, she did the right thing at the right time. It was time for Saracuda to up the ante!

    Stay tuned my Wiree friend.

    PS. This just in. Big August 8th Republican bash in Simi Valley and, you guessed it, former Governor Sarah Palin will be the guest of honor. Get used to this type of stuff.
  • Chredon · 4 months ago
    If she is having trouble paying her legal bills, why doesn't she just ask her SarahPAC friends to donate?

    Let's see, her parents were both teachers. She made 68K/yr at mayor of Wasilla, $125K/yr as governor. She has served on some state advisory boards. Todd's tax filings show that he has never earned more than $100K in any year. So tell me, 3, where did they get that $1.2 million net worth in the first place?
  • RepsKillMyBrain · 4 months ago
    So so accurate... there's no night out in the jail...
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    Well guys she wanted to run away from her troubles... the troubles she made up in alaska.

    Shesy actingy awefully mavericky againy *winkys*
  • RepsKillMyBrain · 4 months ago
    I really hope you're ready to advocate the idea of a legal run for presidence from inside a jail, because this has chance of hapenning...

    And when this day come, I hope we'll have the pleasure to see you defend this... In fact I can't wait to see that, could you make a little preview, you know like a little teaser ?
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    RepsKillMyBrain, here's what we learned today about 36763: He/she is a liar. Delusional, yes, we've known that for a long time, but also now officially a liar. Said that many pundits have told Sarah Palin to quit her job in the middle of her term, and can't cite a single irrefutable link to a single pundit who did so. A liar. Flat-out, simple, unequivocal.
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    "IMO, she did the right thing at the right time."

    Why do I get the impression that you would support even the flakiest thing Palin did or said? You're fast losing all credibility.
  • sylhines · 4 months ago
    We are already use to it. Simi Valley if you are correct about the event is a very conservative area west of LA with lots of military retiree. Did your expect her appearance to grow the base of gin it up. A few people will come to see her but they might not vote for the GOP. What is your point, get use to it. That is all she has been good for since the election, ginning up the wingnuts for a fleecing of their money. I do not know of a single legislative initiative she has passed since the election. Can you advise me of any.
  • ThatOneDemocrat · 4 months ago
    Off topic, I love that handle : )
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    Me too. Particularly poignant in this context.
  • benjoya · 4 months ago
    exactly, cause no one exemplifies the work ethic or intellectual rigor of the conservative movement like sarah palin.
  • colby · 4 months ago
    "A weak correlation stretched to causation, though. People leave positions all the time. Washington quit and retired. Lincoln quit his only Federal office. Theodore Roosevelt quit his Federal job to fight in a war he started. Eisenhower had retired, etc."

    TR's the only one who quit in the middle of his term in office, and even that was an APPOINTED position (he never asked the voters to trust him) and he left it to continue service. Absolutely NO comparison to Palin there.

    Lincoln left AFTER his term ended- unlike Palin- because he campaigned on doing so. He was keeping his word to the voters, whereas Palin is breaking hers.

    And Washington served out his full terms in the most powerful office in the country, then got out of politics altogether. If your argument is that Palin's still politically viable, this kinda works against that.

    And, of course, none of these examples were less than 100 years ago. Quite a stretch, but I suppose if you want to argue this is a good move, you really do have to come up with some whoppers...
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    Bone up on your history.
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    36763, bone up on your history. Comparing the pre-presidential achievements of Washington, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower to Palin's two-and-a-half years as governor of a state with fewer people than Fort Worth, TX. That, my friend, is mightily offensive, especially on this particular weekend. Those great Americans were NOT quitters.
  • Chredon · 4 months ago
    One of you certainly should...
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    This just in, Chredon: 36763 is a liar who said earlier in this thread that pundits have told Sarah Palin to quit her job in the middle of her term, and can't cite an irrefutable link to a single pundit who did so.
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    A Ron Paul supporter with less brains? Isn't that like the old speech-writing joke: "Just like War and Peace, only a little longer and not quite as funny"?
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    Lol yea just like that its kind of hard to compare 2 of the same thing only they are tricked into 2 different peoples "part of the party"

    Sarah Palin isn't even considered the front runner.
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    Well hes just like a ron paul supporter but with less actual brains
  • colby · 4 months ago
    I intend to! But I notice you didn't- because you couldn't- say I was wrong...
  • colby · 4 months ago
    I got a free couple of minutes and fact-checked what I wrote. It checks out. But it WAS fun to bone up on my history, so good advice!
  • NewCitizen · 4 months ago
    It is almost sad to watch you continue to grasp at straws while your hero Sarah Palin goes down in flames.

    I would just slink away quietly, 36, probably a lot easier. Hell - take a lesson from your idol and just quit already! You can strategically hold a press conference late on a Friday so that no one notices. HA HA!!

    Oops - sorry - well, I guess I did say it was *almost* sad.
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    You noticed. Thanks for caring about me.
  • NewCitizen · 4 months ago
    I've only noticed your amazing ability to ignore reality. And also that you continue to ignore Dave's point that you completely made up that "fact" that Palin received recommendations from pundits to quit.
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    Colby, just so you see it in your inbox as soon as possible, 36763 is now officially a liar. He/she said that many pundits have told Sarah Palin to quit her job in the middle of her term, and now can't cite a single, irrefutable link proving that a single pundit ever did so.
  • north2008 · 4 months ago
    Comparing Palin to Washington, Lincoln, TR and Eisenhower is interesting. Washington idolized the Roman hero Cincinnatus, who epitomized giving up power once he was no longer needed to lead, so that Rome could return to being a republic.

    Lincoln had 2 Federal offices; the second one he was elected to twice and didn't "quit", unless you have a very strange definition of quitting.

    TR had a much longer political career before he took a leave of absence to get some photo ops in Cuba. McKinley only made him VP to try to exercise some control over him.

    Both parties tried to get Eisenhower to be their candidate in 1952. He obviously didn't have the obsessive political ambition that Sarah has.

    Since the "inexperienced" label didn't hurt Obama, is it now an asset?
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    Weak on the history and comprehension of the apparent point of this guy's article.

    Holding office while running for higher office, to me, means nothing.
  • Chredon · 4 months ago
    It doesn't, really. Lots of people who had already held office and gotten out have later successfully run for higher office. The point we are making , however, is that they left those previous offices at the end of their terms, not by resigning in the middle of them.

    Quitters never win, and winners never quit. Palin has just proven that she is not a winner. Her political career is over.
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    *Flushes his fears down the toliet*
  • north2008 · 4 months ago
    You kill me. You have the audacity to call me weak on the history when you toss in Washington, Lincoln, TR and Eisenhower, with no context, completely ignoring the different historical circumstances for each, and failing to address the actual question of why each chose to resign when they did.

    Re your last point, that means Palin should have resigned as governor last September. You're brilliant.
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    Just so you know, north, 36763 is a liar. Delusional, yes, but now officially a liar, too -- claimed that pundits told Sarah Palin to quit her job in the middle of her term, and can't cite an irrefutable link to a single pundit who ever did so.
  • michelle2008 · 4 months ago
    All of the pundits--just like Sarah reads all of the magazines! :-)
  • Meffy · 4 months ago
    You let 3 off too easily. Not just "pundits," but:

    "Virtually every pundit advised her to give up her Alaska job."

    Any of 'em, all of 'em. Should be easy for him to list more than one plus a shamelessly Latin evasion.
  • north2008 · 4 months ago
    It's too bad there's not a kind of spam filter that will quarantine 3's comments until there's some factual basis for them. Until then, I think I'll leave Sarah's "Mario" to his Chinese history.
  • hamster999 · 4 months ago
    You're the one weak on history. Comparing the pre-presidential achievements of Washington, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower to Palin's two-and-a-half years as governor of a state with fewer people than Fort Worth, TX. That, my friend, is mightily offensive, especially on this particular weekend.
  • E_in_Houston_TX · 4 months ago
    "Virtually every pundit advised her to give up her Alaska job.”

    What pundit? They probably advised her to quit for her sanity, not for any future national politics run. The pressure may have been a bit much.

    Since leaving the national campaign, Ms Palin has done the exact opposite of what I thought she needed to do to better herself for future national political run. Read what I wrote on my blog on November 10, 2008.
    http://mrsmart.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/is-pali...

    All I have seen her do is fight with virtually anyone who dares say anything she doesn't like about her or her cause. From political operatives to David letterman; John Kerry, the media, etc.

    As for your Washington, Rossevelt and Lincoln examples? Times have changed. Do you have any modern day examples?

    Look, competition for the GOP nomination will be brutal. Think about Huckabee, Romney, T-Paw, governors who finished their terms, some of them, two terms; and some candidates we don’t know yet.

    Palin, I think, is leaving the very job she needed to continue to build on her resume so she can do better next time she tries to run for National office. Have you heard this woman articulate international policy ideas better than her ability to see Russia from her front porch?

    Hey, let's be fair. Everything about her future plans is speculative at best for now. Let's just wish her the best in whatever she chooses to do. Shall we?
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    Roger Simon, et al.
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    You're officially done, 36763. You said pundits told her to quit her job in the middle of her term, you named one, and it never happened. You're not just delusional, and you are delusional: you're also officially a liar. You're done. Thanks.
  • E_in_Houston_TX · 4 months ago
    Who the heck is Roger Simon?
    And, don't give me the et al stuff. Give me names.
    Anyone in this forum ever heard of Roger Simon or even cares about what he thinks?
  • euphgeek · 4 months ago
    Actually, after doing a Google search, I found an article written by Roger Simon, a blogger on Politico, who did indeed advise Palin to "dump Alaska" although he didn't say to do it in the middle of her term.
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    and hes a blogger....... not one of our elected officials so that proves dave in gainsville is right and 367 is wrong
  • Meffy · 4 months ago
    @Tom: At least in the post I saw, 3 did specify pundits, not elected officials. But after specifying "virtually every pundit," when challenged he couldn't even come up with more than one pundit... so I suppose it hardly matters, does it?
  • euphgeek · 4 months ago
    Either way, I think 36763 is actually an Obama supporter who is doing a spoof of a Palin supporter. He's certainly doing a good job of it.
  • Meffy · 4 months ago
    "And, don't give me the et al stuff."

    What, you don't like Latin? It's a dead language, you know. Only liberal elitists use it nowadays. :-}
  • colby · 4 months ago
    One guy =/= "virtually every". And Simon certainly didn't tell her to do this in the middle of her term.
  • colby · 4 months ago
    The "any press is good press" meme is just inapplicable in this day and age, especially in politics. Notice that the only people who say it are the people both WITH bad press and reason to try and spin. You never heard Sam Brownback or Bill Richarson say, "Man, if I could only have a SCANDAL to get everyone's attention!" You don't see politicians WITH bad press allow it to stand; they ALL pushback against it, even Palin. And you certainly don't see the people exposed to prolonged bad press (Sanford, even Palin last fall) benefit from it.
  • 36763 · 4 months ago
    Wrong. We love her because the people who don't like us hate her.
  • Chredon · 4 months ago
    That's an interesting reason to support a particular candidate. "I want Sarah Palin in the White House because all the people who think I'm wrong think that she's wrong, too."

    Have you considered the possibility that we think you are wrong because you are, indeed, wrong?

    For the records, I do not hate Sarah Palin - I just think that she's incompetent to hold high office from the perspective of her intelligence, her education, her character, and her self-delusional ambition. If my 11-year-old son were to suddenly decide that he needed to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I would be equally hesitant to support him.
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    Well... if your 11 year old son did he would prob. know not to quit on us now would he?
  • laughingdog · 4 months ago
    Hrm. People who don't like you also hate Charles Manson and John Wayne Gacy....does that mean you'd support them for the WH, too?
  • colby · 4 months ago
    I bet most of the people who don't like 3 hate Hitler, too. I guess he must support him.

    What an irrational mindset.
  • RepsKillMyBrain · 4 months ago
    "Us" beeing ? The rightwing nuts ? Because if so, there's a bunch of other crazy people "we" don't ,I'm sure you'd be ashamed to love...
  • NevadaTom · 4 months ago
    Us being? the party of no/quiting to run for president.... tell me what state offices sarah palin,mike huckabee,mitt,newt,rush,bill o',and rudy g. all hold 36733. now lets compare it to the democratic candidates when they ran in 2008 Hillary(ny) Obama(ill)......................

    Just a thought maybe you guys should finish your jobs or maybe hell get someone with experience enough to know When to quit(Gov. Sanford) and When Not To QUIT!!(SARAH FAILIN!)
  • Dave_in_Gainesville · 4 months ago
    36763 is a delusional liar who said earlier in this thread that pundits told Sarah Palin to quit her job in the middle of her term, and can't cite an irrefutable link to a single pundit who did so.
  • MaicoMark · 4 months ago
    "Us" being idiots, morons (with apologies to both groups if they don't share your delusions) and the theocracy-loving American Taliban who would happily steal our basic rights?

    Great group of nothings you align yourself with.
  • colby · 4 months ago
    I'm sure that's true- but why you "love" this woman is really irrelevant to the fact that all publicity is NOT good publicity.

    I gotta wonder though, how well it's working out for you to base YOUR support for a candidate off of the opinions of someone who doesn't like you. A healthy mindset would just ignore those people, but hey, do what you want...
  • kortjackson · 4 months ago
    Why doth break foul wind, 36763?

    EDIT: Another way to say to blow something out...