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NewCitizen — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:03:19 -0000

This is the first time I think I've ever agreed with you!

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NewCitizen — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:18:47 -0000

The very fact that this is an issue or deemed to be a relevant question is pathetic

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Vince — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:33:12 -0000

I, as an American, am humiliated.

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Tagg — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:28:48 -0000

And this goes to the heart of Bob Herbert's column today in the NY Times and some of my own observations. You can read more here....http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/...

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hemerson — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:19:19 -0000

6 in 10 Americans aren't that bright.

6 in 10 people on Earth probably aren't either.

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TCinLA — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:22:11 -0000

Further proof that Mencken was right when he said "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

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AGuyNamedJames — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:49:37 -0000

Well, we're still quoting it. How much do you remember from Eisenhower's speeches?

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Steve-O — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:45:46 -0000

If people care about the flagpin, Obama will find a good excuse to Wear it again. Maybe he should make a suit out of a flag, to be on the save side...

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No — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:54:08 -0000

So, six in ten American's are retarded. That's up from the previous metric of one in four.

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jeb — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:45:18 -0000

Ask yourself one question: "Are you wearing a flag pin (right now)"

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middleman — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:04:24 -0000

I don't know. There seems to be little measure of degree of feeling.

If asked, I'd likely respond with a reserved yes that people who wear flag pins are demonstrating a form of patriotism. I like the flag, and don't mind people wearing it as a symbol of pride.

The difference is, I don't want it to be a lithmus test of patriotism. I imagine a large percentage polled would have answered no if the question were "do you have to wear the pin to be patriotic?"

I live and work in Texas and very few people wear the pin. I'm sure they are not all godless commies.

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middleman — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:31:58 -0000

How'd that work out for him? ;-)

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KISSman — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:02:47 -0000

Wow, that's completely idiotic. No wonder why Obama is sporting that flag pin everywhere. Apparently 6-in-10 people are simple-minded fools.

My neighbor has not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 American flag stickers on the back of his SUV. By these folks' standards, he's must be more patriotic and must love America more than everyone else on my entire block combined. LOL

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Captain America T. Patriotic — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:51:32 -0000

Picking up a piece of garbage from a public park is more patriotic. I hate the assholes who even ask these questions. They seem out to get dumb responses.

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sunny steve — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:13:51 -0000

Adlai Stevenson had just finished a speech at a campaign stop in 1956. A man in the crowd shouted, "Senator Stevenson, you have the vote of every thinking American!". Stevenson responded, "Yes, but I need a majority!"

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Land of the Free (ks) — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:51:28 -0000

Whew! There's a speckle of hope after all!!
Thanks for the more critical analysis of this article, midddleman

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middleman — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:42:57 -0000

Take heart. The survey indicates that there is a more complicated view by Americans.

"Protesting U.S. policies you oppose is also patriotic, according to two-thirds of those polled.

On that, there is something of a partisan divide. Democrats are nearly twice as likely as Republicans to see protest as very patriotic."

6.6 in 10 think this is a form of patriotism, while only 6 in 10 note the flag pin. Not bad.

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Corey — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:46:08 -0000

What a stupid question. Of course it is patriotic.

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justcorbly — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:54:35 -0000

I didn't notice any pointing to faults in that post. What I saw was someone acknowledging one of the positives of american life -- free speech -- to stand up for honest and truthful discussions about America. If you think lieing is a prerequisite of patriotism, then you're beyond hope and reason.

Meanwhile, you sound like the kind of guy who'd drink domestic beer just to prove a point, even though he like an import more.

And, oh, yea, nice sexist touch with that "nagging woman" thing.

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dj — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:33:34 -0000

well said, i agree with you.
i for one am not a big fan of the flag lapel pin... but on the other hand, i am wearing a t-shirt right now with a stylized version of my state seal on it.

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Land of the Free — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:24:22 -0000

No one is telling you how you should think. Maybe if you put down your beer and read
critically, you would see that. The last time I checked, this was forum where individuals can post their thoughts and ideas. Just because you don't care for mine and the way I think does'nt mean it's going to change. Calling me names is not going to change the way I think either.

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jgrillo — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:16:11 -0000

OK Einstein, but what if my beer is domestic beer? I'm fascinated by those like you who prefer to find every fault this country has and forget the positives. Kind of like a nagging woman when it comes to patriotism. I'm fascinated that you try to dictate to me what patriotism should mean to me.

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Land of the Free — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:10:38 -0000

Patriotism is telling the TRUTH about the history of your country and hoping that in doing so, others will wake up, listen and look to see how one can improve the situation. It means standing back and trying to take a view of your country from various vantage points and being secure enough to admit what's problematic. . . even when it is not emotionally comfortable.
Most American have their heads up their a----- , drinking beer, eating themselves into oblivion and hating anyone who doen't fit their mold/version of history . Amazing, if you do all that and wear an American flag pin, you are a true patriot. I'm fascinated.

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AGuyNamedJames — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:50:39 -0000

All symbols are shallow -- flag pins, bumper stickers, peace symbols, crucifixes -- until invested with meaning by the emotions that underly them. Sometimes a symbol (any of the above) is really a symbol of patriotism or idealism or faith, and sometimes it's a piece of tribal chauvinism, and sometimes it's a shallow kind of one upmanship. But where would we be if we had no symbols at all? If we can't have that flag on the lapel, why not take it off the flagpole too?

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AGuyNamedJames — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:47:43 -0000

The way I see it, if I don't have that second martini, the terrorists win.